Talking Points February 2015

Jim Ronald and Naomi Fujishima discuss Social Learning Spaces

Jim: Hello Naomi, long-time friend, long-time fellow LD-SIG member, with lots of shared or complementary interests in learner development and beyond… But in fact, we rarely get to speak about these things, do we? In fact, I think that we probably talk about food more than anything else! So I’m really looking forward to talking together about various language learning related matters over this year through Talking Points. And I really hope that the topics we pick up will be of interest to other LD-SIG members, and that the conversations may continue, through the blog entry comments, maybe at local LD Get-togethers, or in our own minds.
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Naomi: Thanks, Jim, for asking me to join you for this Talking Points column. I’m looking forward to working with you this year. I’m not one to talk very much, so I hope this column will help me become more articulate. I consider myself more of a listener/observer rather than the outspoken type, so I’m looking forward to learning a lot from you!

Jim: Two not very outspoken types trying to have a conversation… Good thing our readers won’t have to sit through the extended silences between turns! Anyway, let’s get started. One thing that I’m very interested in – and that you know a lot more about than I do – is social learning spaces. Can I start by asking for a simple definition? (Or we could jump straight into the L-café?)

Naomi: I don’t know if I know more than you do, but I can tell you that a social learning space is basically a place where learners can come together in order to learn with and from each other (Murray, Fujishima, and Uzuka 2014). Together with my colleague, Garold Murray, who is the one who heads our research on the L-café at Okayama University, we see a social learning space as a place that is not regulated by rules and policies, such as a university classroom where students are required to attend in order to gain credit for graduation. Students can come and go as they please, and do what they want. At the L-café, students stop by whenever they don’t have a class to attend. They meet their friends, have lunch, and chat. They can speak in whatever language they feel comfortable with or whatever language they are interested in learning. For most of the Japanese students, it’s a place to make friends and practice their English (or another foreign language, such as Korean, Chinese, German, or French), and for most of the international students, somewhere to practice their Japanese language skills.

Jim: I really like that definition – “a place where learners can come together in order to learn with and from each other”.  This is a good reminder that autonomous learning is very often not only isolated individual learning. I’ve visited your L-café once, and was really impressed by what I saw. In fact, at my university in Hiroshima we’re planning to start one of those (probably i-café!) from April and we do need to know how to make it work. We don’t want it to end up as an empty room, and we don’t want it just to end up as another lounge with no foreign language learning or using going on.

Naomi: The way our café started, the way it was promoted, was that we invited some international students to come from the beginning, and the hook to draw Japanese students in was the chance to come and talk to international students. That was the catch, the appeal…

Jim: I think that ours will probably be similar. We have quite a lot of international students but we still haven’t quite worked out how it will work for them, because they need to have a reason for going there. It could be like a part-time job, but they also need a reason, maybe a language-based reason. We’ll need to work that out. I’ve a couple of ideas. Anyway, you also have Japanese students who help out, don’t you?

Naomi: Well, when we first started, we had an English table, and there was a little sign saying “English conversation”, so when you sat at that table you had to speak English. We did have some student workers who were hired to help Japanese students, and these were not only international students but also Japanese students who had studied abroad and were very good at English. And there are various lessons taught at the café.

Jim: I remember, when I visited, that there was a TOEFL prep class being taught by a student who had returned…

Naomi: Yes, most of the TOEFL prep courses are taught by Japanese students who have had experience of taking the TOEFL, unlike the international students who don’t know about TOEFL. These are not credit-bearing lessons, so they’re more relaxed and, with the teachers closer to their age, they seem to be really popular.

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Jim: What impressed me was that, from the time we entered the L-café, there were students waiting to welcome us, to draw us in, and that was really impressive. It’s really easy to overlook that type of thing. You have to stop and think how to help get students who want to come in get over their hesitation to come in.

Naomi: Yes, that’s one of the duties of the, we call them assistant managers, the student workers. To always be alert, and if there was a student coming in, to make sure they’re welcomed, and to help them as much as they can.

Jim: How is a social learning space different from a SAC/SALC? Is there less of a focus on resources?

Naomi: Well, with us, like a self-access center, the learning materials are there but in a social learning space that’s not the number one priority. Basically, the main purpose is for them to be able to meet friends, and to make friends. There are no restrictions that you have to watch a DVD or go look at the graded readers.

Jim: I first came across this idea of a social learning space by speaking with some Chinese students a few years ago who said that in their home university there was a part of the campus called the English Avenue or something like that. There would be no staff or teachers there, but a lot of students would just go there, maybe have their breakfast as they read an English newspaper, or gather and start speaking to someone. I remember mentioning it to a few Japanese students, asking what they thought if we had one of those on our campus. And the students said, “Well, that would be a fairly empty, lonely place, wouldn’t it!”

Naomi: Hahaha!

Jim: And it’s true, it’s a different culture, and I think that you have to do a lot of things here to pave the way, to enable students to do what they only half realize is in their interest to do. I think that the experience of being involved in it kind of opens up their eyes to the value of it, and until they’ve done it, maybe the best we can hope for in many cases is a kind of grudging, “Well, okay, I’ll go along and see what it is”.

Naomi: Yeah, exactly. So what’s the idea you have for your i-café?

Jim: Well, basically, we saw your L-café and thought, we want the same thing! Who knows how it’ll work out, though. One thing we’re planning involves an English camp we’ll have at my university in March. The plan is that within the camp the students would make groups to imagine, plan, and realize things they can see themselves doing beyond the camp – an English lunch group, a “let’s study together with international students” group, a study abroad group. We want them to have a vision that goes beyond the camp. I think it would be good to tie these up with the i-café – so we can say, “Now we’ve got this new place, we can support you in what you want to do.”

Naomi: Yeah, well, all the best – and tell me how it goes!

Murray, G., Fujishima, N., & Uzuka, M. (2014). The semiotics of place: Autonomy and space. In G. Murray (Ed.) Social dimensions of autonomy in language learning (pp. 81-99). New York: Palgrave Macmillan.

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